Jeff Dean and Noam Shazeer on Google, Transformers and AI

HN cites it for insight into Google researchers' views on AI progress and publishing, though one commenter finds the interview weak.

Dwarkesh Patel interviews Google's Jeff Dean and Noam Shazeer about 25 years at the company, from PageRank and MapReduce to the Transformer, mixture of experts and Gemini. They also discuss where AI is heading.